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that did not harm but would gather information. this administration ran against john mccain saying, even though john mccain agreed, yeah, we don't want to water board, we don't want to do anything that somebody might someday call torture, they complained, gee, this is allowing radicals to be recruited against the united states because of the unjust nature of doing a procedure that's not harmful to someone's health, to gather information to save american lives, which it did. here we are now with this administration that thought waterboarding helped jeeyaddists -- jihadists recruit more radicals using a process of having a high administration official think to himself or herself, i don't think this may be enough. blow them up. without giving adequate consideration to civilians who will be killed, to family members who will be upset, to the ability of our enemies to use that to recruit other radicals, many times over, to replace those that have been killed with a drone strike. this administration's systemic failure to understand what the muslim brotherhood calls, quote, civilization jihad,
of these international obligations. >> on the issue of -- [inaudible] john mccain said today that the borders are not secure and arizona remains the main drug pipeline from drugs coming from mexico. until this issue is resolved there would be no path to citizenship. understanding the numbers there, still how will the white house certify, how will the white house propose to convince those along the borders that what they are saying is not true? >> i think we made the point clearly backed up by independent data that our borders are more secure since the president took office. we made grade strides in border security in the last several years. we have designated significant resources to that. that effort is resulting in fewer -- we're producing positive results in terms of migration. we have never said that the work is done. that's why when the president talks about comprehensive immigration reform and the president lays out his blue print that he has done more than a year. the number one priority is continuing to take necessary action to enhance our border security following on the work that ha
. she worked with the transition operations of presidential candidates barack obama and john mccain, and with a team representing george w. bush. i will reform the -- i will refer you to your programs for more information on her publications. proudly, i can say she is a proud member of the board of directors at the white house historical association. >> thank you. we have a wonderful panel here that represents people who have worked in the white house over several administrations in the residence staff and people who have come with particular presidents and first ladies. if through our discussions we will get a sense of the environment that a first lady operates in. it is a difficult place to be. in some ways it is as beautiful. as the white house is it has many different roles. it is a museum, it obviously is a residence, it is a park, and it is a workplace. all of those combined -- for the first lady it gives opportunity for her and her husband, and also some hazards as they live their lives in the white house. it is also a place for children, a place to raise a family. with a fir
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